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Question: Straight or Curved Quotes?

  
  
  

We receive lots of grammar and punctuation questions from customers and visitors to our site. This week, I thought I'd post a question we received about quotations along with Phil Jamieson's answer. In coming weeks, I'll post some of the other questions we've received along with their answers.

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Today's question is from a customer who had questions about changes we made to quotation marks in her documents.

Question:

Is there a difference between using straight quotes   (" ") and curved quotes (“ ”)? ProofreadNOW has, in the past, changed my curved quotes to straight, and I’m just wondering why that is (and how to do straight quotes myself!).

Answer:

We generally want to make sure quote marks are consistent. In documents we sense are not destined for email or posting on a web page, we endeavor to make the quote marks curly (a.k.a. 'smart'). This means they curve one way or the other depending on if they are left or right (beginning of quotation or ending of quotation).
 
You only have one kind of quote mark on your keyboard. That's because in ASCII, there's only one character for a quote mark. To make these marks curve one way or the other, various display mechanisms use control characters to alter them. Trouble is, in email or on some web browsers, those control characters mess things up. That's why every now and then you get an email with weird characters throughout - and if you notice, they're before and after quoted material, or where an apostrophe is supposed to be shown. Control characters are also used for trademark symbols and other special symbols for which there is no keyboard equivalent, and so sometimes you see those messed up too.
 
That's why we endeavor to make the marks in email and web docs straight, or 'dumb.' Straight marks are plain ASCII characters and are not confusing to web browsers and email servers. Microsoft Word has a setting to make quote marks smart by default. That means that when you type a quote mark and then a word with no space in between, MS Word will make it a left quote mark (curly). And when you type a word and a quote mark with no space, Word will make it a right quote mark.
 
You can straighten the mark out if you want: as soon as you hit the mark, hit a control-Z and it will be straightened out. That's because the control-z (Microsoft's 'undo' command) undoes the command to make the straight mark curly. Of course if you hit it again, it will remove (undo the typing of) the quote mark itself. (Control-z undoes whatever command was just done. Repeated Control-Z's undo previous commands, one before the other.)
 
Try it. Go into a Word doc, hit the quote mark and see it turn curly (in less than a blink of the eye). Then hit the control-z and watch it go straight.
 
If we have made marks straight in non-email docs, it was because we sensed an overall pattern of straight marks and made the curly ones consistent.

 

Comments

I agree in principle. I am a web developer that continually curses MS Word's auto smart quoting because of how it can mangle the web copy. 
 
There are programmatic ways of replacing curly quotes with HTML entities (e.g. &ldquo) to solve this. However, I'll concede that this is not within the grasp of most web-content creators. 
 
My issue is one with how precise you guys generally are in grammatical issues, but are rather lackadaisical about this typography issue. 
 
The "straight" quotes you refer to are inch marks and foot marks. (Or primary and secondary or ...) 
 
While your conclusion is probably the easiest and most straightforward, your article is lax in the discussion of the "proper" use of the quotes from a typographical standpoint. 
 
If a writer/publisher has the means to use curly (smart/printer's) quotes reliably, then by all means she or he should be doing that. 
 
(The quotes in the above comment are straight/dumb because in this situation, I have no way of reliably inserting curly quotes and be sure all readers would see them correctly.)
Posted @ Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:10 by Ric
Ric, 
 
 
 
Thanks for commenting. 
 
 
 
You said it yourself: "(The quotes in the above comment are straight/dumb because in this situation, I have no way of reliably inserting curly quotes and be sure all readers would see them correctly.)" 
 
 
 
I believe you affirmed my point: Use straight marks when there's the possibility that smart marks will be mangled by a browser. 
 
 
 
It is always safe to say that any browser, reader, mail server or robot will recognize a straight quote mark. Your statement that such a mark is only an inch mark or a prime mark is inaccurate. The standard western keyboard has only a straight quote mark. Until that changes, straight marks will always be recognized in context as a quote mark.  
 
 
 
You say we are strong on grammar (thank you!) and lackadaisical on typography (I disagree). Just because we would opt for straight marks in online text does not mean we don't pay attention to specific characters. Just as nearly everyone will know that "Joe and me went to the store" is wrong, so too will nearly everyone see a straight mark as a quote mark (in context). 
 
 
 
Phil J.
Posted @ Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:14 PM by Phil Jamieson
I was mostly saying that it would have been prudent to address the reason why curly quotes exist and are used instead of implying that it doesn't matter which you choose.
Posted @ Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:24 PM by Ric
This is the first article I've received as a new blog subscriber. Thank you, Phil and Ric, for shedding light on using curly and straight quotes. I'm looking forward to receiving more of these smart emails.
Posted @ Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:22 PM by Diane Hawkins
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